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		<title>Comment on Precision Marketing RIP&#8230;. by Spring Global Mail</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=87&#038;cpage=1#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Spring Global Mail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marketing Week has picked up the slack though. Not a regular reader of Precision Marketing I used to flick through the old reception copies.

We have now got a Marketing Week subscription though and the DM section is normally pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing Week has picked up the slack though. Not a regular reader of Precision Marketing I used to flick through the old reception copies.</p>
<p>We have now got a Marketing Week subscription though and the DM section is normally pretty good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard Re-set Required for Direct Marketing to Re-invent Itself by Iain Henderson</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=10&#038;cpage=1#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed thanks, yes e-mail marketing won&#039;t survive in its current form I suspect. We&#039;re working on that re-set....taking a bit of time!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed thanks, yes e-mail marketing won&#8217;t survive in its current form I suspect. We&#8217;re working on that re-set&#8230;.taking a bit of time!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard Re-set Required for Direct Marketing to Re-invent Itself by UK Shopping</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=10&#038;cpage=1#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Shopping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Just came across this and although the original article was written two years ago I think it&#039;s fair to say the situation is still no better.  I think that users are now so jaded to email spam that most (myself included) are weary about signing up to even a trusted source.

If a re-set was effective it could possibly be turned around, but with the growth of twitter, and recommendations when you login to any account you have set up such as Amazon, its hard to see email marketing making a come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just came across this and although the original article was written two years ago I think it&#8217;s fair to say the situation is still no better.  I think that users are now so jaded to email spam that most (myself included) are weary about signing up to even a trusted source.</p>
<p>If a re-set was effective it could possibly be turned around, but with the growth of twitter, and recommendations when you login to any account you have set up such as Amazon, its hard to see email marketing making a come back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Personal Data Eco-System by Beyond Data Ownership to Information Sharing</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=273&#038;cpage=1#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond Data Ownership to Information Sharing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brings their own data to the exchange. We need a framework that can handle that. Iain Henderson breaks down this complexity in a blog post about your data, my data, and our data, talking about an individual doing business [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] brings their own data to the exchange. We need a framework that can handle that. Iain Henderson breaks down this complexity in a blog post about your data, my data, and our data, talking about an individual doing business [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Personal Data Eco-System by Data Without Borders Episode 8: Spy vs. Spy :: Data Without Borders</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=273&#038;cpage=1#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Data Without Borders Episode 8: Spy vs. Spy :: Data Without Borders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A perfect picture of seller-centric myopia by John Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-650</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consumers are one step removed. They&#039;d be another bubble beyond &quot;Distributors &amp; Retailers&quot;, funneling into the BPI/Record Companies. In fact, to the music industry, pretty much any of the end bubbles are customers...

It&#039;s amusing to think that everything the &quot;music industry&quot; does is wrong, but in reality, here it&#039;s your lack of understanding of: a) what they do, and b) what this image represents which is at fault here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumers are one step removed. They&#8217;d be another bubble beyond &#8220;Distributors &amp; Retailers&#8221;, funneling into the BPI/Record Companies. In fact, to the music industry, pretty much any of the end bubbles are customers&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amusing to think that everything the &#8220;music industry&#8221; does is wrong, but in reality, here it&#8217;s your lack of understanding of: a) what they do, and b) what this image represents which is at fault here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A perfect picture of seller-centric myopia by William</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=286&#038;cpage=1#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 09:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Me of course. The punter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Me of course. The punter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard Re-set Required for Direct Marketing to Re-invent Itself by Iain Henderson</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=10&#038;cpage=1#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Katy, glad you found it interesting.

I agree that the deployment of any mass scale opt out would a) be complex, and b) have to be accompanied by some parallel work on enhanced opt-in. But i&#039;m not so sure that i&#039;d architect any deployment for the those not willing/ able to engage with it - they are covered by the existing modus operandi and if we wait for an entire population to be in position to move then we&#039;d be waiting forever. Also, I think the best research around would say that the split in terms of proportions worried about privacy comes down as 25% privacy activist, 40% privacy pragmatist and 35% privacy unaware - so that would be 65% able to engage?

As for the 50 door to door sales, I think its actually worse that that. If you include things like behavioural tracking and targeting within direct marketing (which I do) then just as the advertisers grab a piece of the individuals property (data) when they come calling, we&#039;d have door to door salesmen walking off with a piece of the lawn!!!!. So the sooner we get on with the radical rethink the better....

Cheers

Iain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Katy, glad you found it interesting.</p>
<p>I agree that the deployment of any mass scale opt out would a) be complex, and b) have to be accompanied by some parallel work on enhanced opt-in. But i&#8217;m not so sure that i&#8217;d architect any deployment for the those not willing/ able to engage with it &#8211; they are covered by the existing modus operandi and if we wait for an entire population to be in position to move then we&#8217;d be waiting forever. Also, I think the best research around would say that the split in terms of proportions worried about privacy comes down as 25% privacy activist, 40% privacy pragmatist and 35% privacy unaware &#8211; so that would be 65% able to engage?</p>
<p>As for the 50 door to door sales, I think its actually worse that that. If you include things like behavioural tracking and targeting within direct marketing (which I do) then just as the advertisers grab a piece of the individuals property (data) when they come calling, we&#8217;d have door to door salesmen walking off with a piece of the lawn!!!!. So the sooner we get on with the radical rethink the better&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Iain</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard Re-set Required for Direct Marketing to Re-invent Itself by Katy Evans-Bush</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=10&#038;cpage=1#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy Evans-Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I came here via Ed Mayo - very interesting article. 

Interesting: &quot;the principle that unless an individual has ‘Opted Out’ then they are fair game to be targeted with marketing messages.&quot;

This is of course the very principle that underlies spamming - which highlights something very deep-rooted in our culture. We all hate spam, but its very bedrock also underlies the good old door-to-door encyclopaedia salesman. 

A lot of people are barely web-literate and only just managing to sign up to things (&quot;Where do I click? Oh no I deleted it!&quot;), and these people would be flummoxed by a blanket opt-out (&quot;From what??&quot; I can hear them say - &quot;No, this online stuff is not for me&quot;), or persona-based multiple privacy profiles. 

Then there was the opt-out from cold calling in the USA, in which there were found to be so many loop-holes that it made little difference. 

Still, you&#039;re right - with the equivalent of fifty door-to-door guys hitting on us every day, we need a radical rethink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I came here via Ed Mayo &#8211; very interesting article. </p>
<p>Interesting: &#8220;the principle that unless an individual has ‘Opted Out’ then they are fair game to be targeted with marketing messages.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is of course the very principle that underlies spamming &#8211; which highlights something very deep-rooted in our culture. We all hate spam, but its very bedrock also underlies the good old door-to-door encyclopaedia salesman. </p>
<p>A lot of people are barely web-literate and only just managing to sign up to things (&#8220;Where do I click? Oh no I deleted it!&#8221;), and these people would be flummoxed by a blanket opt-out (&#8220;From what??&#8221; I can hear them say &#8211; &#8220;No, this online stuff is not for me&#8221;), or persona-based multiple privacy profiles. </p>
<p>Then there was the opt-out from cold calling in the USA, in which there were found to be so many loop-holes that it made little difference. </p>
<p>Still, you&#8217;re right &#8211; with the equivalent of fifty door-to-door guys hitting on us every day, we need a radical rethink.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard Re-set Required for Direct Marketing to Re-invent Itself by Marketing as nuisance &#171; Ed Mayo&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.rightsideup.net/?p=10&#038;cpage=1#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing as nuisance &#171; Ed Mayo&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an excellent blog here by Iain Henderson on how to move to a new model of direct marketing &#8211; what he calls a [...]</description>
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